What's Nonsense, and Why It Persists
Named after P.T. Barnum β "our tendency to rate vague, general personality descriptors as highly accurate when we believe they've been tailored specifically to us."
What's Nonsense, and Why It Persists
Sources: yQMvSFmrvTU, DaNr2wygvpQ, t_Kv0MoIrXE, aXS0gG7ppn0, 1tZKL7T94hQ, gjw8y7SsYIY
1. The verdicts
| Framework | Origin | Verdict |
|---|---|---|
| MBTI | Katherine Briggs & Isabel Myers, 1940s β neither trained in psychology β from Jung, who said his ideas shouldn't be used to classify people | "One of the most successful pseudo-scientific nonsense instruments ever created." Take it twice, half get a new type within weeks |
| DiSC | William Moulton Marston, 1920s β also invented the lie detector and Wonder Woman. "Neither is admissible in court" | "Complete nonsense." Marston never built an assessment tool β consultants commercialised his untested framework decades later |
| Insights Discovery | β | "Essentially DiSC in a different wrapper" β "and they use Jung's name again to lend it gravitas" |
| StrengthsFinder | Gallup | No independent validation. Assumes strengths are fixed traits. "Popular because it's flattering" |
| NLP | Bandler (psychology student) & Grinder (linguistics professor) | "It doesn't. It never has." Exercises that "would struggle to pass as warm-ups in an entry-level communication course" |
| Colour psychology | Mehta & Zhu 2009 (red/blue) | Failed replication β "the effect melted away." Elliot & Maier 2014: colour doesn't directly alter behaviour |
| Pricing in 7 | Ted Nicholas, one direct-mail marketer split-testing | No peer-reviewed evidence 7 beats 9. Practitioner folklore |
2. Five mechanisms that make nonsense feel true
The Barnum effect
Named after P.T. Barnum β "our tendency to rate vague, general personality descriptors as highly accurate when we believe they've been tailored specifically to us."
> Your profile says you're "someone who values deep thinking but also enjoys meaningful connections." You think "that's exactly me" β when in fact it's exactly everyone.
> "When have you ever had an MBTI or DiSC test tell you that you're actually a horrible person? You haven't." Descriptions are engineered to be universally flattering and just specific enough to feel personal. Same mechanism as horoscopes.
Borrowed credibility
The recurring move: attach a real name or real vocabulary to an unvalidated idea.
- MBTI, DiSC and Insights all invoke Jung
- NLP invokes its founders' academic affiliations β "as if the word psychology sprinkled near a name magically validates the entire circus"
- NLP "stole framing from behavioural psychology to give itself legitimacy" (Zn_nEXBqO4s)
> "You can spend three years studying psychology and still produce ideas with no scientific merit. Credentials don't sanctify nonsense. Evidence does." > "When your material doesn't withstand scrutiny, you start waving around academic affiliations from 50 years ago."
The scientific veneer
DiSC "borrows the language and formats you'd expect from something scientific" β a questionnaire, a profile, a quadrant, a wheel, percentages. > "It looks official, it sounds technical, and the language is tremendously confident" β "your DiSC style is..." as though something has been measured.
Repetition into authority
The seven-pricing convention "came from one person split testing in direct mail," shared at seminars, "repeated so many times that it acquired the weight of established science." > "Like a family recipe that nobody has ever checked against the original."
Commercial incentive
> "You sell training licences to consultants, who sell workshops to companies β and everyone profits except the science."
DiSC has been "repackaged and resold so many times that what you're buying today is several generations removed from anything Marston wrote" β "the connection to the original is mostly just branding."
3. Evaluative conditioning β nonsense that turns against you
The sharpest practical finding, from gjw8y7SsYIY:
97/197/497/997 has been paired so often with "six-figure blueprint" courses β "delivered by somebody standing in front of a rented Lamborghini" β that the number itself now triggers distrust.
> The critical property: evaluative conditioning is resistant to extinction. Explain that seven is arbitrary and the feeling of distrust persists. > "Anyone still using 97-pricing is fighting a learned aversion in a growing portion of their audience β and they can't reason their way out of it, because the aversion was never rational to begin with."
The same logic applies to "limited edition" (6b0R53Z04HU) β worn out by overuse until it triggers reactance in experienced buyers.
4. The colour case β a myth with a real lesson underneath
What's false: red makes you aggressive, blue makes you creative, pink jail cells calm prisoners.
What's true: colour carries learned, cultural meanings. Red is danger in the UK, weddings and prosperity in China. "Same pigment, opposite meanings."
| Colour | One category | The other |
|---|---|---|
| Red | Louboutin soles; Valentino gowns | McDonald's; Coca-Cola |
| Orange | Hermès | easyJet |
> "If orange was luxurious, flying to Alicante would be a luxury holiday."
And the famous ones were accidents: Hermès orange came from WWII packaging shortages; Louboutin's red was borrowed nail polish; Tiffany blue was chosen because turquoise was fashionable in the 1840s.
> The real lesson: meaning is built by consistent repetition, not chosen from a chart. β the same mechanism as manufactured recognition in 9eDkvWe-YaA. So stop agonising, pick one, and hold it rigidly.
5. β οΈ The uncomfortable turn β luxury uses these mechanisms too
The channel does not exempt itself. From DaNr2wygvpQ:
> "This is where it gets interesting for anyone working in luxury, because we use Barnum statements constantly. We just don't call it that."
- "You've been selected for a private viewing because of your distinctive taste."
- "I thought of you immediately when this piece came in β it's very you."
> "That's a vague positive statement dressed up as a personal insight. And the client accepts it because it confirms something they already believe about themselves. It works spectacularly well."
The stated ethical line
> "Unlike MBTI, nobody in luxury is pretending that it's science. And that's the difference."
Two objections are distinguished throughout:
- The technique works β Barnum statements, anchoring and defaults are all endorsed elsewhere
- The fraud is the scientific claim β and especially using unvalidated instruments for hiring and promotion decisions, which is the recurring real-world objection
(A related but unresolved ethical debate about influence vs. manipulation runs through dZDFXTrneJI.)
6. The channel's own evidential standard
Worth noting, because it's applied inconsistently and you should read accordingly:
Where it's careful:
- Names sources β Thomas & Morwitz, Friestad & Wright, Elliot & Maier, Johnson & Goldstein, Reber & Schwarz, Michael Spence
- Volunteers replication problems: on the jam study β "that study has replication problems and effect sizes vary by context, so I wouldn't treat it as gospel" (RT_nEw64gXA)
- Distinguishes what research supports (charm pricing in 9s) from practitioner folklore (7s)
- Took the NLP master practitioner course himself to check
Where it isn't:
- Many prescriptions (never discount, never itemise, always publish prices) are professional opinion presented with the same confidence as cited findings
- Anecdote does a lot of work β memorable, but n=1
- Trend claims conflict across videos (TvrYaXt3L0g vs k3J9a8DS_As) without reconciliation